Oop? [poink] - This is the sort of thing that makes me want to kill myself.

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to kill myself.

May. 20th, 2009 at 1:26 PM

Well, half of it.

Every time I hear someone say there's been a victory for gay rights, I want to cry because it seems like every time someone does, there are ten more vocal homophobes.

Also, I hate YouTube. Intensely.

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citizenjess wrote:

May. 20th, 2009 05:50 pm (UTC)

I try to remember that it takes a long time for change to occur among large groups of people. That there have been so many victories since the beginning of the year is HUGE, even if it seems like everything gets mired in personal politics and bandied about like it's not people's civil rights being refused. We're at the apex of one of the busiest times in history - it feels slow, but there is so much going on right now. Sometimes I still get annoyed hearing the same tired arguments again and a-fucking-gain, but it's exciting to see that it's finally getting results.

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vzg wrote:

May. 20th, 2009 06:29 pm (UTC)

I still feel like it's too slow, or like people are too quick to claim victory — specifically, someone was saying that bloggers' reaction to the "Gathering Storm" ad and the FunnyorDie parody was a victory, when several similar videos in response are crowded with hateful homophobic comments that are being rated up over and over again — enough so that some have a zero or plus one rating still.

Have I mentioned that I hate YouTube?

And I still want to know what the hell is up with New York not legally allowing gay marriage yet. Maine and Iowa beat my state to the punch. And California! I don't know how people in these states can't be ashamed of that.

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citizenjess wrote:

May. 20th, 2009 06:38 pm (UTC)

The wife and I were discussing this the other day, actually. We have several friends in California (and New York, actually); often, there's a feeling of, "We're automatically better because we live in ~ CULTURE ~ and you don't". One of the gals I met via my school program is a life-long CA resident, and she flat-out told me, "Don't move to Iowa, it's a red state, and you won't feel safe like you would in a blue state." It's true to a point, but there's just as much controversy in those cultural hot-spots as there are progressive folks. California alone has had this huge hullabaloo over their fucking beauty queen thinking two guys kissing is icky-poo, and the Prop 8 fall-out has been ridiculous. Thre were 2-3 other states (Florida and Arizona, I'm sure of) that had gay marriage propositions on the ballot last November, too, but CA was the gay mecca, so it got pretty much all of the media's attention.

Iowa's very live-and-let-live; also, it's had some big civil rights 'firsts' prior to this - it's not all that surprising that it's taken a stand, albeit quietly. I DO hope it motivates other states to action; I believe it already is, even if a lot of it is tied up in red tape. I try to keep in mind how little was done for the GLBT community for the past eight years, and how much has happened in the most recent six months in comparison. Sometimes it doesn't seem fast enough, but it's happening now, finally happening, and that's the most important part.

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vzg wrote:

May. 20th, 2009 07:20 pm (UTC)

I know... it just feels ridiculous that the states that are home to New York City and San Francisco can't just get with it. But we suck upstate. :/

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silvershinigami wrote:

May. 20th, 2009 08:05 pm (UTC)

What? Youtube? What?

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vzg wrote:

May. 21st, 2009 04:25 am (UTC)

That's where I encounter most of them.

Not YouTube overall, like the creators and the concept and everything, but how overrun with bigoted idiots it is, yes. :/

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